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Resolved Question: does this sound unfair?
ok, well im a 13 year old girl (and a very unfortunate one also....) i have one brother..hes 11....and i have been looking back, and i realize that..my parents treat us VERY different....here are some examples:
- he has NO chores...at all...we live on a farm...i feed the chickens, the cow, the horses, and the cats and dog. plus many more
-i found out that my parents have secretly been putting extra money into his savings account (an extra 25$ a week!!)
-they buy him everything he asks for....he got a brand new trumpet....i got my USED trombone for 100$ off of ebay...
-my parents gave him the bigger bedroom...and the bigger bed...
-they got my bed and mattress at a garage sale for like 20$ from a drunk guy..they bought my brother a really expensive one (from some well known company)
-i have been asking my parents if i could have a new pair of tennis shoes...mine are way to small, since i have had them for almost 3 years...they won't buy me any...but they can get my brother new snowboarding boots for over 100$
-they let him get a (300$) season pass for a local ski hill (powder ridge) and they bought all his supplies for it (snowboard, boots, expensive gloves and hat..ect.
-they always show up to all of his concerts...they missed the spelling bee when i was in it...
these may not sound important to you, but they show me that i think i am being treated unfairly....my brother is spoiled....
and another thing: i told my parents about what i think and their exact words were: "of course its fair!!! i don't pick favorites!!!!" my mom said that.... my dad said this: "YOUR the spoiled one around here!!!! poor David..i missed the first 10 minutes of his concert...YOU need to get your act together and act your age!!!!!" and i never yelled at them..at all! i was very calm and tried to be polite...
does all this sound unfair? what should i do? and i can't go to a counceler....thats only for the older kids...
moreResolved Question: Does this sound like a good situation (about free leasing a horse)?
Well, my parents have said I can lease a horse for the summer but if I can extend it I will...haha. Anyway, right off the bat even before I had permission the barn owner said I could get a really good price for half leasing my favorite horse there (she's a boarders horse). This would be a really good option because I'm only there on weekends during the year (the barn is near my weekend house) but for longer periods of time in the summer. But, the only problem is that I don't think this horse can jump (as in not sound enough) which is something I really love doing.
But, because of this I looked online for a free off farm lease somewhat near me. I found a horse who is 1.5 hours away. Lily is 5 years old and needs an experienced confident rider. She's nice on the ground. Hasn't been worked a lot this past winter due to time and that is the reason she is being leased out so she may need some "reminder" sessions. She goes on the trails does not spook easily. Goes over anything when asked. She jumps very nicely.
I emailed the owner and that's how I found out more of this information. Do you think it's better to do the half lease for let's say $350 a month everything included or free lease lily and board her at $600 a month (full board)?
I'd love it if you could take in consideration some of these things. I'm 13 and have been riding 5 years. The barn that I am currently at (and in love with!) is primarily western but they do have english riders as well. I've never even seen jumps set up so that's why I'd love to lease so I could jump again (I jumped all the time at my old/other barn). There are a ton of trails which I love to go on. I'd call myself an intermediate rider.
The horse that I could half lease is a shire/paint x who I absolutely adore. She is a sweetheart and I love her to death but she does get excited under saddle.
Lily is 16 hands. They are unsure of her breed but her mother was a Quater horse. They were told she is an appendix but believe there is some draft in her also. She is very calm but will test you that is why she needs a confident rider. She was used in the UMASS riding program but didn't like Several riders on her. With one or two she is fine. (I could get one other person at the barn to ride her when I'm not there particularly during the year when I'm only up on weekends)
Well, I'm sorry this is such a long question! here's the link to lily's ad http://www.horsetopia.com/for-sale/classifieds/ad390332
Thanks for all of your help and opinions!just a bit more info because it may not be clear. I can deal with excitable horses (that's what the shire/paint is) she needs a very calm and quiet rider. Also, I've had no problems riding an ex high eq horse who bucks like crazy.
moreResolved Question: Should i buy my vaccines now?
i found out the vaccine i wanted to get for my horse online is for sale at my local farm and fleet. it's slightly more expensive, but i won't be paying the (insane) 20 dollars shipping. i'm afraid if i wait to buy it, they'll run out when everyone goes to buy it for their spring vaccines. how long can the vaccine sit in my fridge? i won't be vaccinating until late march/early april. don't they have to be refrigerated? i don't think farm and fleet has a refrigerated section lol....
moreResolved Question: What do you think about this guy?
Okay, so I've inquired about that mare "Hushaby Honey", and they have to review my application before I can progress further, so I'm still looking at other horses in the meantime, just to keep an open mind....
I found this horse....
http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-978272.html?sr=1&breed_ids=57,259,58,59,261,501&ad_type=1&radius=300&min_age=36&max_age=180&min_height=150&min_price=200&max_price=3000<id=0&zip=47201&x_sold=1
Here is what she has said to me in an email:
"Thanks so much for your inquiry. Semper is still currently for sale and has recently moved to my farm. I am selling him for a friend of mine who purchased 2 horses awhile back but has recently decided to no longer pursue this interest. Mike, his owner, is a very beginner horse owner and rider and purchased Semper for his large size and “babysitter” qualities. Semp is very easy going, super friendly, and gentle.
Semper’s price is negotiable to a good home. He is registered but does not have a lip tattoo so we can assume he has not been on the track. Mike did not use him for jumping so I am not sure about his jumping abilities though we have put him over a few low cross rails and he handled them like a champ. I don’t see a reason why he wouldn’t be able to jump higher. He is out of shape and would need some good rides before being balanced and strong enough to do some real work.
Currently Semper does not have shoes. However, he has not been in regular work for some time. Due to his size and having “thoroughbred” feet, sometimes he does get foot sore when working a lot. I have spoken to Mike about putting shoes on his front end which would help. He stands well for the farrier so I don’t think this would be an issue."
What are your thoughts here? I would be negotiating him down quite a bit, but his seller says that is fine.LMAO, Ehawlz.... you just made me explode and spit my drink out everywhere, and I woke my mom up.... LOL! She thought I was choking !!!! But after laughing, I sort of was.... LOLI knew he was 9, but is it me, or does it seem like 2001 one was just yesterday??? It just feels like 2001 wasn't that long ago. It's like... if I see a horse that was born in 2000, I think "oh they are still young". If I see a horse born in 1999, I think "ANCIENT". LOL. I guess I'm getting old when I think 2001 was so recent. :-]
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moreResolved Question: Could somebody please grade my paper?
Cars of the 1930s
The Automobile Industry resisted the depression and welcomed a new look for cars throughout the 1930s. The stock-market crash lead into the Great Depression, nonetheless the farming and middle-class families did not entirely give up on cars. Throughout history cars have been the nation’s symbol of security, comfort, and leisure.
The “drop-frame” construction lowered the car’s center of gravity. The Ford 1932 V-8 significantly introduced the “drop-frame” appearance. Ford’s 1932 V-8 design brought the car’s height down from the high perch of early automobiles. It’s engine was moved over the front axels and the hood was expanded outward. Its sixty-five-horse power capacity gave the car strength. Many people including Clyde barrow favored this car, he said, “I have drove fords exclusively when I could get away with one. For sustained speed and freedom from trouble, the ford has got every other car skinned. Even if my business hasn’t been strictly legal it don’t hurt anything to tell you what a fine car you got in the V-8” He and Bonnie Parker had stolen a 1932 V-8 in Texas.
The 1934 Chrysler and Desoto Airflow models cut the edge of engineering and aesthetic auto production. The first car to feature a unified body and chassis was the airflow. The car had sturdiness on the road and a roomier interior. Despite the public found it unattractive, Chrysler structured the advances learned from the airflow into its line of mid-priced sedans.
Due to the great depression, the production of all vehicles fell 36 percent in 1930. It then fell 29 more percent in 1931. In 1932, it fell to about 1,300,000 vehicles, the lowest ever since World War one. GM’s Alfred P. Sloan had a strategy called “constant upgrading of product” or planned obsolescence, which meant encouraging consumers to trade up and blanketing the market with a car at the top of every price range. Later “constant upgrading of product” was called sloanism and moved GM to the top. Sloanism emphasized trade-ins and styling.
The styling department at GM made cars appear lower and longer. The 1932 Cadillac was the first car to eliminate the separate box-like trunk. By the end of the 1930s US Auto manufactures had established a unified structure, lower, wider passenger compartments that went throughout and up to the 1950s.
Aerodynamic styling, or streamlining, meant modeling their new cars on the design principles of high-speed trains and airplanes. This resulted in better speed and fuel economy, made the ride smoother, lessened wind noise and car’s drag. The once-separate body and chassis merged into a unified body.
Independent automakers failed throughout the depression years due to the low sales. Car companies that ceased to build were Kissel, Ruxton, Mood, Dobel, Jordan, Stearns, Gardener, Marmon, Peerless, Du Pont, and more. Not all went down; five companies survived Charles Nash, Hudson, Packard, Studebaker, and Willy-Overland.
The number of U.S. Automakers dropped drastically from 108 in 1923 to 44 by 1927. The big three were Ford, General Motors, and Chrysler. Large Automakers lowered their prices on their cars to stay in business.
In 1930, it was recorded that sales in the auto industry had dropped 2 million from 5 million, just in the previous year. The depression affected the countries entire economy. The big three got a bigger share of the market from the fall of the independent automobile companies. Their share increased from 75 to 90, over the time period since the 1920s.
Due to the plant closings, jobless workers, and low production the United Automobile Workers (UAW) Union was founded in Detroit, in 1935. The depression led many workers to strike and believe unionization was the only way to protect themselves from corruption of the companies. In 1935, congress passed the National labor Relations Act (NLRA), which outlawed the heavy-handed measures the companies had been using to break up unions. General Motors spent close to one million from 1934 up to 1936, the reason was for guards to patrol its plants. On May 26th, 1937, UAW leader attempted to hand out flyers at the main gate. They were stopped and trapped, who were beaten along with women, reporters, and photographers. The event became known as “Battle of the overpass.” To close down many plants, the UAW used the sit-down strike. This in effect did stop labor. By 1937, the UAW succeeded against GM and Chrysler. Ford continued to stop unionization. Ford Workers walked out on April 1st of 1941 causing the River Rouge Plant to close. In 1936, strikes by workers led to improved working conditions and wages.
moreResolved Question: What can we do about the killing of American citizens by illegal aliens under the influence?
Of course, pro-illegal supporters will be the first to say that "Many more Americans are killed by citizens". I SAY, those killed by illegals would STILL be alive if the illegal that killed them had not come here in the first place!***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************DWI killer of mother, daughter gets maximum sentence
By Terence Corcoran • tcorcora@lohud.com • January 14, 2010
CARMEL — An illegal immigrant who was driving with no license and a blood-alcohol level nearly twice the legal limit when he plowed into and killed a Southeast mother and daughter received the maximum sentence Wednesday of 8 1/3 to 25 years in state prison.
Conses Garcia-Zacarias, 35, who has been held in the Putnam County jail since the June 8 fatalities, pleaded guilty in November to two counts of vehicular homicide in the deaths of Lori Donohue, 37, and her 8-year-old daughter, Kayla. The second-grader and her mother were leaving the girl's dance class at Seven Stars School of Performing Arts in Brewster when Garcia-Zacarias struck them with a pickup truck.
The act instantly took away half of the Donohue family, leaving Robert Donohue and his 5-year-old son, Christopher, grieving for the wife and mother, sister and daughter they lost.
"Explaining to my 5-year-old son that he can never again hug and kiss his mommy and sister has been devastating to him, me and our whole family," Donohue told the court Wednesday.
Donohue was accompanied in Putnam County Court by more than two dozen friends and family members who took up four of the six rows in the courtroom.
Lori Donohue's father, John Luhrs, 70, of Bethel, Conn., also gave a victim-impact statement. He placed photos of his daughter and granddaughter on the prosecutor's table before looking up at Putnam County Judge James Rooney and saying, "Your Honor: A parent's worst nightmare."
Lori Donohue grew up in Yonkers and rose through the ranks at Dorian Drake International Inc. in Harrison, where she worked as a sales manager. Kayla attended JFK Elementary School, played softball and swam. She was a Girl Scout and had been collecting cookies to send to troops in Iraq when she was killed.
Kayla Donohue was pronounced dead at the scene of the 6:35 p.m. crash while Lori Donohue was flown to Westchester Medical Center in Valhalla, where she later died.
In an instant, all of our lives drastically changed," Luhrs said. "Our hearts are absolutely broken — no, our hearts have been ripped out."
The deaths grieved and outraged the community and reignited the debate about illegal immigration, drinking and driving, and the hiring of undocumented workers.
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Garcia-Zacarias worked on horse farms in the U.S. for several years and the white, F-350 Ford pickup truck with Florida plates he was driving that night was registered to Valerie Renihan, a horse trainer who leased the house on Tonetta Lake Road in Southeast where Garcia-Zacarias and several other men were living.
Renihan, whose Facebook page said in June that she was working out of Staysail Farm in North Salem, has said through an attorney that she never gave Garcia-Zacarias permission to use the truck and that he got drunk that day and stole the keys.
Neighbors said he and the other men living in the rented house regularly used the vehicle.
Chief Assistant District Attorney Christopher York said the criminal investigation is open and active.
Rooney said Garcia-Zacarias told a probation officer that he was so drunk the evening of June 8 he did not remember the fatal crash.
Police say he sped down the wrong side of Brewster's Main Street and barreled through a T intersection at routes 6 and 22. The truck crossed the narrow parking area dividing the road from the dance school building and ran over Lori and Kayla Donohue as other horrified parents, children and instructors stood nearby.
Through an interpreter, Garcia-Zacarias expressed remorse and talked about how his actions have hurt his own family.
"I apologize to the family and I ask forgiveness. It was not my intention and it's something that could happen to any of us," he said. "I ask them to forgive me. I have my two daughters over there (in Guatemala) who are also suffering because of this."
Garcia-Zacarias will serve his sentences on the two counts of vehicular homicide concurrently, or at the same time, as stipulated by the law, Rooney said.
"Do not look to me for forgiveness," Rooney told him in imposing the maximum. "God may grant you mercy, Mr. Zacarias, but this court will not."
Garcia-Zacarias faces deportation to his native Guatemala after serving his time.
Donohue said his family would fight any effort by Garcia-Zacarias to shorten his sentence.
"At every parole hearing he has, he will see our faces," Donohue said
moreResolved Question: What do you think of this guy (I've been watching his ad... he's growing on me...)?
He's been for sale for a really long time, and my trainer keeps pushing me to go see him. I've seen his price drop bit by bit... drastically. It started out at like $2,500 or so, then it was $2,000, then it was $1,500, and now it's $800. He's pretty cute and has decent confo, but he appears to be sort of small... he's supposedly 15.2 but that girl riding him is *supposedly* tall as heck.
Here's his ad:
http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/1539440344.html
Here's what the lady said to me in an email:
"He is still for sale, its been very hard for me to fully part with him. I had a lady fall in love with him but she isn't able to go over $1000 and I have a gentleman that is supposed to come down from Cincinnati to look at him tomorrow all weather depending as I do not have an indoor arena. I got him to do lower level eventing and hunters and for that he passed his vet exam almost two months ago now. He was in race training but I am unsure as to if he was ever raced. I got him from a local trainer in Louisville. He was bred right on the guy's farm and has only had one owner before me. I have only had him for two months and have had little time to work with him with much of anything. He is super sweet and very laid back. I have ridden him four times and he has never offered to buck or rear so I think that he would be a super fast learner and very easy to work with. He has no health or lameness issues what so ever and my vet was very pleased with the way he moved but said that he lacked muscle due lack of activity. He wants to please you. The only reason why I am selling him is lack of funds. My little shih tzu just cost me over $3000 in vet bills and we are not done yet. Her meds run me about $70 a week and she needs to go in for weekly blood pulls so its adding up then U of L just hit me with a $2500 tuition bill. So out of my 4 he would be the easiest sell."
Keep in mind... this email is a little over a month old. He just didn't really impress me much so I dropped him, and now that his price is lower he caught my eye again. His only real problem is how small he is, but a simple visit in person (or should I say "in horse") should help me better assess that.
Pictures she sent me (small but sufficient.. zoom in if you need to):
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp228/Meagk78/greytb222.jpg
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp228/Meagk78/greytb2.jpg
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp228/Meagk78/greytb.jpg
What are your opinions on him? (for eventing). Another plus is that he is only about an hour away from me.OH by the way, I'm 5'3" and a quarter.... so even if he is a bit small, it shouldn't be a big deal.
moreResolved Question: Is this horse good ?(picture included)?
I have been looking for a horse lately. I found this one, I need a horse that can go atleast 5 feet for jumping, because my goal is to get a scholarship tou UGA on the equestrian team. My main focus is hunter/jumper . I need a horse that well help teach me, but also me have a good learning experience teaching him . so tell me what you think about him and his conformation.
This is his description on his sale page:
Thunder In Paradise, fondly known as Thunder is a lovely 5 year old Thoroughbred gelding. Thunder was broke to tack in December '05. He has been working on and off since then so as not to overwhelm him. He has been progressing each time he is taken out. We still consider him green and he will test you at times. Thunder is very smart and catches on very quickly. According to fellow riders and professionals on the HITS circuit, he is a wonderful mover and has a 10 jump on him.
During the HITS circuit this winter, Thunder has been ridden by two top Hunter professionals. Each said that he is an excellent Hunter Prospect and has just the look and movements the judges are looking for.Through this past winter he has been traveling around to several farms in the Ocala and North Florida area to gain more exposure to the world. He is settling in quite nicely.
photo link:
http://s715.photobucket.com/albums/ww154/horsecrazyk/?action=view¤t=Hunter20Standing20Cropped.jpg
there are 3 photos
moreResolved Question: i really want this filly and i dont know how to persuade my dad?
Well there's these two fillys (little girl foals)at the farm i go to and i want one of them and she is called Lola, she's the only one for sale and i really loved her as soon as i saw her... she's early 1 and a half, she's dark bay at the moment, verging 14hh but is going to grow to around 16hh, and she has thoroughbred and showjumping blood in her. i groom he rand her sister every single day and i have started to get a bond with Lola. She didnt have any views for quite a while, but rescently i found out that there's a woman looking at her, wanting to buy her and, seen as the farm is not a livery yard, they would take her away. i have quite a few acres of grassy land as my back garden and my dad has not yet put anything on it, apart from a few ducks on the pond. My dad has the money to buy Lola, and seen as i have been loaning Bonnie for 7 months now, i think i am ready to take on the full responsibility of a horse, specifically a foal. i can handle Lola very well and she trusts me, but no matter how much i beg my dad, he wont let me buy her, he says that i am not ready, he is not ready and the back garden is not ready. The farm have said that if i do buy her, i can keep her at the farm for a year or so until we are ready to gradually move her into our home. unfortunately, it is a race against time. How do i get my dad to see that i am ready for this filly, and that everything would work out okay if we got her? I am nearly 14 and i am onto showjumping with a 14.3hh pony. I spent nearly 48 hours crying about Lola when i found out that she could go but my dad doesnt understand. He says when i get a horse, he wants a professional to come along and make sure it is alright for me. But all i want is Lola. How do i persuade him that she is the one i want and everything would be okay? Please help me, i dont know what i do if i had to say goodbye to her .
moreResolved Question: Which of these horses do you like the best and why?
I was just wondering which of these horses you thought was best for someone who wants a horse just for recreation and the pleasure of riding and MAYBE a small show here or there.
Probably an off farm lease for him as it would save money.
http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-906023.html
They have reduced the price by 1500 already which is great!
http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-942888.html
I'm not as sure about her because she's a tad too far for me, but maybe. http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-971726.html
I don't know if I'd feel bad about not showing her because that's what her previous owners primarily did. http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/horse-ad-942128.html
Thanks so much and Happy New Year!Ok, I'm crossing Mist (the 3rd horse) off the list now because she's too far and I don't actually think she'd be that great after all.What do you think is the maximum height a person could be to look decent on a horse that is around 15 hands? The first horse is 15.3 and the 2nd and 4th are both 15 hands. I hope that's not too short for me.
moreResolved Question: Where have you (successfully) found a used saddle?
so i was going to buy this english saddle from this lady who's horse just sold. i get to the farm this morning to test ride it some more, and it isn't there. her horse left, and all of her stuff went too. the saddle wasn't going with the horse, so i'm not sure where it is. idk if she took it away from the farm just because she won't be there anymore, if it's at my trainer's house, or if it actually went with the horse (against original plans). i'm really hoping she just cleaned out her stuff from the tack room and she has it, she knew i wanted it....anyways, that's beside the point. my question is, if i can't get this saddle, where have you gotten your used saddle? none are currently for sale at my barn, i'm at a trail barn so only 2 people own english saddles which aren't for sale. i've looked on craigslist, nothing. kijiji, nothing. my local tack shop has like 3, but they're really junky saddles. i'm afraid to look at ebay because what if i spend all that money & it doesn't fit?
any ideas?LOL meagan, that craigslist killer sounds AWFULLY familiar :D http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgBi3_UrcYjUBijuGX9E9Dnty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090630195831AALHw6q
moreVoting Question: A horse that trote gallope? (please answer fast!)?
Alright. So I was reccommending by the owner of the farm I ride at (and she does my lessons) a gelding that is for sale. He is a trote gallope which means he trots and gallops. So he can't canter? Please give me as much info as possible, and I will add more so keep checking!
Thanks!Oh. And could he be a show jumper?I am not sure. Here is the page to it.
http://www.purepuertorican.com/Horses/Sentido.htmlWell, it says he started over fences (since he is still pretty young. 7 years) And no, I don't think he was races as a trotter.I go to this farm every week, I think should would have told me. lolz
moreResolved Question: A woman I know is telling a lot of lies about her horse for sale... should I do anything?
I work/board at a farm with a woman there who has 2 horses. One of them (the one she's selling) is a 3-year-old OTTB. I have never seen her ride it (and I'm out all day several days a week, and for at least a few hours most other days), and my trainer has never seen her ride it either. I highly doubt it's ever had anyone other than a jockey on it, the owner comes out exactly once per month to pay board (at least sometimes she pays board, but that's another story). He is a decent horse but his ground manners are highly lacking and he's spooky.
His owner also refuses to pay for enough food for him, so he doesn't get as much food as he needs. I'd guess he needs at least 2 quarts of beet pulp, unlimited hay, and 1 quart of grain, but she's only paying for 1 quart of grain and 2 flakes of hay 2x daily. We give him extra but the barn can't afford to feed him for free, so he is underweight. He also has rain rot because she never grooms him, but some of the lesson kids around the barn groom him occasionally because they feel bad. His feet get trimmed about half as frequently as they need to, and my trainer pays for his feet to get sometimes. Basically if my trainer weren't giving her all of these hand-outs the horse would have elf-slipper feet, be a 1 or 2 on the BCS, and be completely covered in rain rot.
So anyway, I guess it's finally dawned on this woman that it's not a good idea for her to keep her horse, because I saw it on craigslist. I'm 100% sure it's the same horse (same markings, same name, and her other horse which wears a distinctive halter is standing next to it).
Now, in her advertisement she's claiming that he's "fully broke" "anyone can ride him" "not spooky", and the "calmest thoroughbred ever". The photos must be from when she first got him because they don't show how skinny he is or his rain rot. Should I just ignore it? I don't want someone to get hurt trying him, because as I said I don't think he's been ridden since he was at the track. Although I don't think anyone with a grain of common sense would believe that a 3-year-old OTTB would be suitable for a beginner, a lot of people don't have that much common sense! If I don't ignore it, how should I word my e-mail? I am going to have to send an e-mail because I literally never see her, she only comes to the barn to pay board and I'm not there as often during the winter.
Can't call animal control because he's not skinny enough for them to care, and we can't seize him for back board because she pays JUST enough board to not have the barn legally be able to take him. Don't want to kick her out and make her move to a new barn because then the new barn probably won't give them the free extras he needs.Oh and I have another concern... if someone comes out to test ride it and gets hurt on the farm's property, is the farm liable? They have those warning signs up but if the person doesn't sign a waiver first...She is listing him for 1200 because she "put a lot of work into him". I doubt she's paid that much in board since she's had him. Anyway, I am forwarding this ad to the barn owner, she has way more authority than I do!Stasha- yes, I'm in PA. The ad is for a chestnut TB with 2 hind socks and a blaze, and his name is "Lucky". It might be the same one... if you think he's cute and are up for a handful (and want him) the owner would probably take much much less than 1200 for him, haha. Just don't try to ride him!
moreResolved Question: how much do you think this horse is worth?
now-before we begin, this is my horse. he is not for sale, and never will be. i'm asking this question because a horse at my barn just sold for 3,500 dollars and i think that's WAY too much. this horse has been trained, but hasn't been worked since his first training (he's 6). he just bucked someone off on the trails, he doesn't stand well, he's nervous, the list goes on. i thought he was way expensive. there's another horse at my barn up for sale for way more than i think he's worth. i'm simply curious to see if the horse market's going up and i haven't been informed :P
i'm asking using my horse because he's the horse i know best (duh) and i just bought him 7 months ago, so i'd like to see if the market's up since then
so for those of you who keep up on horse ads-how much would you pay for this horse?
15 y/o trail gelding
unregistered-probably a TB
15.3/16 hh
does both trail and arena work
isn't spooky-when he does spook, he spooks in place. doesn't bolt.
full of energy, you'd think he's more like 4! has a ton of life to him
leads, follows & stays in the middle on the trails.
gets nervous when he has to lead, but if you push him through it he's fine in a minute or two.
went out alone for the first time today (lost sight of the farm, no other horses or people) and i could tell he was nervous and wanted to go back, but he stuck it out and did awesome.
can be ridden bareback, halter, bit, any saddle.
neck reins beautifully & also direct reins well.
lunges very well
was a very easy keeper over the summer, harder to keep weight on this winter
doesn't like to stand for long periods of time without something to do (stands well for the farrier, stands well for the vet, stands well to be groomed but he doesn't just want to stand there with nothing going on)
gets nervous around new people
doesn't bite/buck/rear
must be pasture boarded
trailers awesome (walks right in, backs right out-no problems)
did wonderful barefoot, until the farrier screwed him up and he needed shoes. doing well barefoot now
UTD
stands very well for bathing-likes to drink out of the hose :)
likes and needs constant work. he's a piece of work of he isn't ridden for a few days.
on voice commands. he knows walk, trot, canter, turn, woah & back up.
very, VERY soft mouth & senstive to leg pressure
higher up in the pecking order
all in all, this is a horse who needs constant love and attention. if you let him get away with something, he'll take advantage of it. as i said in the "Doesn't like to stand" above, if you get on him about it he'll stand quietly. he needs constant work. without constant love & attention, we wouldn't have the bond we do. he needs someone to visit him every day so he can develop that trust.
alright, tell me if i forgot anything! again, this IS my horse, but don't worry about offending me. i know he isn't worth much (money wise :D)lol ehawlz! "deluxe power steering"
never thought of it THAT way :P
moreResolved Question: Has anyone ever heard of or had something like this happen to them??!?!?!?
I was just browsing through Farm & Garden on Craigslist like I usually do. I like to keep up with the horses for sale on CL and Horsetopia and EquineNow and all those sites. Anyways I haven't looked in a week or so but I was just on there and found this ad that someone had posted that happened to them and their horse. It's terrible!!!!!
"Has this ever happened to you? You look for a horse trainer. You get an anonymous tip on Craigslist about the greatest trainer in the world. You don't know any better, so you bring your horse to this person to be trained. You pay hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars to make sure your horse is trained to do one thing. The trainer takes your money and tells you that he/she will be able to do what was requested. The trainer tells you that he/she will call you before your horse is scheduled to go home, so that he/she will be able to show you one on one what he/she has taught your horse. You leave expecting the best for your prized horse.
Then comes the nightmare. A week or so before your horse is scheduled to be picked up, the trainer tells you that they were unable to do what you requested. He/she tells you that the horse is just not ready to be trained yet (the horse is almost two years old, and smart as heck). You wonder why this reputable trainer did not call you sooner to tell you this. Then you get a call several days before your horse is going to be picked up. You are advised that your horse is sick, and your horse has never been sick a day in his/her life while at your house. Now comes the vet bill. Then you go pick up your horse a day earlier then scheduled. You get to the barn, every horse at the barn is outside in the pastures enjoying the day, but not your horse. Your horse is in a stall. There is not a soul in sight. You look at your horse and almost cry because you can tell your horse probably has not be brushed or groomed for a month. Her physical appearance is terrible. You then take your horse back home, and promise your horse that you will never do this to him/her again. You try grooming for two hours and no matter what you do (aside from a full bath), you cannot make your horse look like he/she did when you dropped him/her off at the trainer.
Has this ever happened to anyone else? I have taken pictures, documented conversations that were witnessed by others, and will speak with my attorney this week.
Please tell me I am not the only one who has experienced this? I learned my lesson. Never take an anonymous tip on CL about someone. If you find a trainer, pop in on him/her every day for a month if you must. Park down the street and see if in fact your horse is even being trained. Look at the hay and make sure the hay is what he/she told you it would be. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. I will not mention the name of this individual. I will deal with this from a legal standpoint. I have no doubt that some trainer just like this will go ahead and delete this posting. To all the decent trainers in the world, and you know who you are....God Bless You, and keep up the good work.
I hope I can find the strength to forgive. I am mad as hell. "
Has anyone else ever had this happen to them or know anyone it's happened to?? I mean how can people go on living their day to day life knowing they've done and/or are doing this to someone's beloved animal? It makes me so mad!!!!Lyla- I completely agree!! I think we should lock them in a stall with no windows, no food, and let them roll around in their own sh!t and piss for a change!
moreResolved Question: Im so confused! help?!?
Ok, here is my confusing story. I bought a 5 yr old QH cross, Sallie, on Feb. 21, 2009. I bought her to be my barrel horse and to haul around to shows. The place I bought her from is a big rescue farm with all kinds of breeds of horses. The girl there had gotten Sallie from her ex husband in TN who couldn’t afford to keep her anymore. She got Sallie in October or November and put her up for sale because she had no room for her. In Feb. I went and tried her out and loved her. I brought her home and trail rode her everyday for a good month. After awhile she started bucking on the barrel pattern. It went from kicking her back feet up every once in a while to full blown out “get off of me” bucking. I was out running her in a field with a friend and she started bucking and didn’t stop until I hit the ground. She took off running, and then came back to stand by my side. i dusted off and got back on and she didn’t buck after that… just wanted to go home. After trying to work with her for weeks I gave up and decided she needed to go to a home where someone could fix the bucking. I listed her for sale and got a few bites, but I started to notice her belly was getting pretty round and she was getting more and more moody. In mid July I had a vet out who looked at her and said “90% chance she is pregnant, I would expect a foal late summer/early fall.” Since then Sallie has developed a small bag and when you squeeze here teat clear milk comes out (I have been able to “milk” her for 2 or 3 weeks). I decided to have a vet come out and look at her again to see why I didn’t have a foal yet. The vet did an internal inspection and said that she couldn’t feel a foal in there at all, but said that it could have been lying just out of her reach. Sallie is very wide now, but doesn’t hang low hardly at all. I talked to her previous owners and they said they have 2 stallions, a grey QH (who has never gotten out of his pen) and a Belgian (who gets out a lot). Sallie’s vulva is pretty loose and pink on the inside (she is a black horse and its usually black in there). when i was looking at her last night her belly was "lopsided" and hanging to her right a lot (if this means anything?). Now I just want to know if she is pregnant or not! If she isn’t than I can take her off of mare and foal feed and start trying to ride her again, but if she is pregnant I will keep her on the feed and I won’t ride her. She isn’t exposed to any stallions out here, and her only pasture buddy is a 14 year old QH gelding. What are your guys’ ideas for her… pregnant or not? I’m confused! Thanks! pics at: http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/can-some-one-help-me-im-so-305450.htmlI would say its deff. not a grass belly. she is only on 2 acres of pasture with free choice of hay. i only have one picture of her from the front, and its posted withthe others at that link. is a false pregnancy out of question?
moreResolved Question: Am i Crazy?! please answer!!?
right, i've been known to do some crazy things, but when it comes to horses Whoa, lol.
right well, i've been on the market looking for a horse for YEARS and yes many a time i have changed from foreward push button - slow steady - old quiet - young and trainable - THIS! lol
but i got a 3yo mare a while bak(may) and this mare was young and settled, i really liked the idea of having to bring her on, and i asked my trainer and she said she has full trust that i can do it, so i went ahead and got her, but at this point she was the first horse we had for years at our farm, so there was no company for her, she got really unsettled and jumped out of the field, so we sold her back. <regret this EVERY day! :(
Now, we have a 21yo 12hh mare that we agreed to adopt, and i love her. but i still want my own horse, i don't care how much(well mum and dad do..lol)
Right to the point, i found this wee gelding:
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/horses/983156
now i've looked closely at ALL the pics and does it look like blood on his hind legs to you?
I live in Northern Ireland, and he is across the border, and if im right the exchange rate into english pounds is £897.
Now yes hears the crazy part, would i be wise in buying him, and getting him healthy(if he is bleeding) and training him?
i have £1,200 saved up, so if i bought him, i could pay vet fees and training equipment and ask my trainer to help me break him!
I've been riding since i was 6 and im now 16, i can walk,trot,canter,gallop, show jump 80, XC and done the odd hunt. I can do Join-up, T-Touch and a tiny bit of Parreli, and i can read a horses body lang. and personallity from its face.
I work down at a riding stables, i have riden bucking, rearing, bolting, napping, and newly broken horses(newly broken inspired me :D..)
i have also re-trained a 4yo ISH for my friend and im riding him at the moment!
I also ride a 16.2hh irish hunter and i hunt, show-jump and do dressage with her.
i have riden 20 different horses, and i have had some nasty scares and i have learnt how to respond in certain situations.
i feel that if i did get this wee gelding, i would have an amazing bond, as he is only a year old and i could bomb-proof him to EVERYTING, instead of buyin a 6yo horse and tryin to make him suit me, i could mould this wee guy into the way i want him!
i dno may be im just being crazy!
thoughts and advice all welcome!
and PLEASE the truth, no matter how blunt, i need to know!
:)
fanx!i am an animal lover, and i would have no problem taking him in and helping him!
i have looked thru EVERY ad in that web page and i keep going back to him!
i dno y!
i feel i should do something and i feel drawen to him!awww i know..lol
:)
i wont be riding on his back till he's 4 or 3 at the least!
:)
theres somthing about him that is intruging me!
i REALY wna go see him! im gna ask mum 2morrow as its 12 here at the moment!
i realy like the look of him(face wise not looks) i always say that and then i go look and its not what i expect! lol
its my birthday next week, nd i've already got that amount saved, i might ask for him, if he is suitable of course!
:)right, we rang about him!
:)
nd he sounds ver quiet and the man says i can come up as many times as i want to look at him.
The blood was from being gelded and he is still with his mum, so he says he is slowly weanin him from her at the moment, but he has been broken to halter and is leading well, and im goin to see him in a couple of days!
:)
moreResolved Question: Horse Riding in America?
Hi there,
When I leave high school at the end of this year I am moving to the states for a year. I have been born and breed on a farm and I have found a position as a Farm Hand just outside Amarillo, TX.
I have been riding my whole life but only english riding - Dressage, show jumping, hunter classes etc...
So, I was just wondering how popular English riding is over in Texas/ Amarillo area? Or is western riding more popular?
Will there be many English shows for me to compete in?
What are some good english shows to compete in in the Amarillo area?
What are some good web sites for me to start browsing for horses for sale in the US?
Thanks for your help!
moreResolved Question: Any Appaloosa Pleasure geldings for sale ?
I need an Appaloosa Pleasure gelding. Under $5,000. 3-12 years old. Color doesn't matter. I would like to show him. I own 4 other Appaloosa horses at a family-owned farm, so will have good company.
I've been riding horses my whole life and would really love to have a horse that I could have some fun with.
If you know of a horse that is for sale that meets those standards, please drop a comment with the URL of the horse(s) for sale.
Thank you!
moreResolved Question: If I dont live in a agricutlural zone , can still have a horse on that property?
Heres my story:
I live in a small house built 15+ years ago and Have land around me I can buy and build a small farm on , [ close , to me like a block? ] and to keep my horse there. [ low crime rate ] I have a problem , as it isnt agricultural zoned & all the land in this county that is agricultural [ unless right next to the interstate lol ] is bought , county owns , not for sale , etc cant buy it! or wouldn't. I DO NOT repeat DO NOT live in where it is zoned AG [ Agriculture ] I live on what I believe residential. I cannot tell the difference between the two colors on the GIS.
Is there anyway someone can come out inspect the land and sign off [ paper work dahdahdeedah ] that this lot is to be used for agriculture or " zoned " as it?
Any answers are appreciated! long long answers are the best!http://maps.scgov.net/website/zoningmap/viewer.htm
thats the GIS. Were the whiteish under the greenish agri & to the right of some green agri , little reddish & yellow :P
if that helps, i dont want this question removed!
moreResolved Question: I need Horse sale websites!!! HELP!!!!?
They can be either specific farms (in the midwestern US) or ones like equine.com.
Do NOT say:
craigslist or kijiji (hate them w/ a passion)
equinenow (doesn't work idk why)
equine
dreamhorse
horsetopia
equinehits
agdirect
(I have already scoured those)
So, any others, for AMERICA?Uhhh, horse.com sells horse supplies. I am looking for a HORSE.
moreResolved Question: The farmer's horse (old but classic)?
One day a farmer’s truck breaks down, so he is walking down the road to his house and sees a horse for sale. He buys the horse for $100 and continues down the road. A short while later a different man offers him $200 for the horse so he sells it, but then realizes he still needs to get home so he changes his mind and goes back. The man agrees to sell to sell him his horse back but that it will cost him $300. He pays the $300 and heads for home. When he gets close to his farm a third man tells him he wants to buy the horse and will give him $400. The farmer sells the horse and walks home.
So, did he lose money, make a profit, or break even?
moreResolved Question: how to sell crops-vegetation?
I am buying acreage and want to for profit farming-consider growing numerous crops, mushrooms, corn for horses and sale, peanuts, ?
moreResolved Question: what do you think about this/ what can i do?
ok so ive been looking for a horse, like for the whole year, i found the perfect one and it got sold. so i keep looking a i find this one:
http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-pets-livestock-for-sale-Quiet-Gelding-comes-with-western-Saddle-W0QQAdIdZ156932765
what do you think??? he does have a cribbing problem though, but has a coller (do you think its to much for a beginner?)
second: i live on a farm, so we have lots of pasture, the only thing is we dont really have a barn that would suit a horse, as they are for cows (well there is one place in the barn, but not for long term) / the one for horses is not even close (flooding, no lighting, or water). should i keep the horse in the cow barn till i find some other place? the horse has to be gone by oct.2 as they are moving, so that is an opition. if you have any suguestions that would be really really nice!!!!!aby????what is your email????
moreResolved Question: Sick and tired of the lying and bull crap.?
My husband lies to me all the time about everything, especially about money, buying horses, cows, loans, he says he lies because I nag him all the time and I am a control freak and he isn't going to ask permission to buy something he wants. I am a stay at home wife. I work hard at home. I do ALL the cleaning, grocery shopping, cooking, bill paying, laundry, and I mow for about 5 hours each week and do all the yard maintenance such as spraying chemicals and weed eating. I am not lazy by any means, I am very frugal with money and True to be a loving supportive wife. My husband has become very emotionally distant in the last 2 years, spends all his time at cattle sales and working out on the farm. We rarely spend time together anymore. He is a hard worker, a good provider, not abusive, no drinking, no gambling...he just lies about everything. This is a second marriage for both. Our children are grown and we have none together. We seem to be happy to people, He has a good job, we live in a beautiful home, have pets, friends and are respected members of the community. Not sure what I should do. Should I shut up and count my blessings or should I divorce before its to late and my life totally comes undone or is he cheating or is this a sickness that can be healed. I have ask to go to marriage counseling many times. I don't even know what the truth is anymore. He says he loves me and no one could love me the way he does. Please give me your thought and advice,
Thanks.
moreVoting Question: Horse trivia: Arabians, advanced....?
I've enjoyed the trivia questions and quizzes that people have posted. I thought I'd have a try at posting some breed-specific trivia questions that are on the advanced side and see how they go.
First quiz, Arabian breed the subject.
In 1925, breakfast food magnate W. K. Kellogg purchased the initial acreage in Southern California on which he established his Arabian horse breeding farm. Kellogg eventually deeded the farm to the California State University system, and then the land and horses were passed on to the US Army Quartermaster Depot/Remount Service. When the Remount Service was turned over to the Department of Agriculture in 1948, the decision was made to sell the horses and the land.
The sale of some of the horses was accomplished in 1949, but before all the the horses or any of the land could be sold, a young California congressman sponsored legislation to sell the ranch and horses back to the W.K. Kellogg Foundation for $1; the foundation in turn donated the land to the state of California, with two provisos: one was that the land had to be used for educational purposes. It is on this land that the California State Polytechnic University, Pomona campus was built.
So here are the three trivia questions:
1. What was the name of the most prominent, noteworthy Arabian horse that was sold off from the Remount depot at Kellogg Ranch before the legislation that saved the ranch and the horses was passed?
2. Who was the first-term congressman who wrote the legislation that saved the ranch and the horses?
3. What was the second of the two conditions that allow the state of California to continue to use the land that was the Kellogg Ranch?
moreResolved Question: The woman I lease from is starting to be a bother?
Just curious if I should do anything, or just let it be.
So the story goes:
I have leased this mare all summer and have made remarkable progress. Most things you folks at YA have helped greatly with. I have made a true bond with her, and her me. We have braved things together, though nothing like challenging bears in the mountains, but little things, like riding backwards. I am 23 and have been riding for more than half my lifetime, being able to know and love a horse for itself, rather than just riding along is such a feeling of joy that I have no real words for. I have been working ALL summer to teach her the cue to canter. A few days ago I got it. It was amazing a real "ahhhhh" moment. So, I ran over to a mutual friends barn where the woman I lease from, lets call her Betty, I run in,and exclaim, I got Eb to canter! and she is like...oh.Good.
She seems a little off in her little world when I tell her about things that I have done with Eb, and seems a little stiff when I mention doing things that she hasn't done with Eb.
Betty uses Eb for trail rides, strictly trail rides. I use Eb in the round pen, arena, and play with her in the pasture.
I think that Eb and I have a stronger bond than that of Betty and Betty may be aware of that and feel distasteful about it.
Recently, I mentioned to another owner at the farm that her fjord would be wonderful to ride bareback (Ebs back bone gives you a wedgie) and a few hours later she calls me up and tells me that she would like me to ride her fjord to get him back into shape. I am delighted. I ask Betty what the fjords owners name is because i have the tendency to forget owners name and only remember horses names. Betty says "its Melissa, and she wants you to ride her fjords..." as if accusing me. Melissa comes to the sale that we are preparing and gets distracted and starts talking to me about what she wants from me riding and Betty comes over and is like "yes,oh right,un huh, yeah, yes..okay, alright" like she is also going to be riding the fjords, which as far as i know, she is not. Melissa mentioned to me a lot of people offered to ride her horses (Betty included), but she felt comfortable with me since I appear to know what I am doing and have a general love for horses.
So yes, those are the last two incidents. I have known and worked with Eb for two years prior to leasing her, but have also work and known her current owner, Betty. (Eb switched owners in April)
Both of us are non confrontational, I prefer to just let things go, but I was curious if you guys had any suggestions to make things a little more easy.
moreResolved Question: How much would you pay for this horse?
Honest answers with regards to the economy appreciated. Any explanations to your answer are great as well.
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs116.snc1/4708_93130336796_502071796_1722450_5651439_n.jpg
Yearling Gelding - Foaled April '08
Gelded October '08
Sire is homozygous for black, dam was black (yearling showing signs of being brown/dark bay)
Currently stands 15.1hh
Registered AQHA Appendix, AQHA Incentive Fund Enrolled
Son of Indian Artbeat, Grandson of Indian Artifacts
Registered/Inspected American Warmblood Registry (not branded)
First Premium at weanling AWR inspections
Overall Score: 7.2
Type: 7.5
Frame: 7.2
Conformation: 7.2
Movement: 6.8
Judge's Comments: "Masculine sport horse, well set on neck with correct length, leggy colt with correct proportions and lots of freedom of the elbow. Travels correctly, canters correctly from behind, trot has suspension."
Calm, sane, walks well on lead and over poles, has been lunged very lightly and accepts a surcingle. Loves dogs, not afraid of farm animals, tractors, or cars. Loads and trailers easily. Ties and grooms well, picks up feet, not fussy about fly spray, blankets, or masks. Has not been clipped, working on bathing. Up to date on shots and wormer.
HOWEVER, he has a chipped hind cannon bone that while it is unsightly and will require surgery, is being treated and has never affected his soundness.
If you could please give the price (or range) you would pay if he did NOT have the injury, as well as a price because he DOES, that would be wonderful!!
((***Little note to everyone: No, he's not for sale. No, I would never sell him without disclosing everything including the injury (and x-rays of it). This is all theoretical.))devilrider13- He photographs absolutely terribly, so no offense taken on that. My fiance and I just shake our heads and groan... this is one of the better, newer ones. Some of the winter ones make him look like FHOTD material. Unscrupulous people say this all the time in ads, so I'm prepared for those ensuing eyerolls, but he's truly so much better looking in person.inuyashasheetmusic - Dam was also an Appendix, registered with the AWR with First Premium rating as well. We aren't in the breeding business. He's the only horse we have and we bought him (for quite some money, then unfortunately the economy got worse) hoping he will turn out to be my hunter.Also, injury was due to an accident- he jumped the fence and landed on the neighbor's farm equipment. First vet let us go quite some time thinking it was a tendon injury and their was no need to x-ray. >:( Needless to say, we aren't using him any more.
moreResolved Question: Please Help me with posting to craigslists/farm&garden...?
I know this isn't a horse question, but it is a about one. Ok so on craigslist i keep post to farm&garden about horse wanted or looking for a riding horse and ever time i do i get flagged and remove, but i don't know why. Here is what I'm writeing on the postsing- Hi, i'm looking for a well broke horse i can ride Im only 14 years old, but i will give a good home with lots of TLC. My horse is going blind and i want to retire him from riding and thats why i'm looking for a good riding horse. The horse has to be well broke, gentle, great for a begginer (not a complete begginer thou), not spook easly, above 14.1 hands high, and trained in western. He or she will have a barn stall with lots of pasture, hay, feed, and also other horse friends. I can only aford up to 500.00 or he/she can be free. Or if you have a filly/colt you have for sale that is a Quarter horse or Paint and that can be registered please email me. Thank you!!!
PS: Please no Twalken horses. Thank you!
also i'm posting to the WV farm and garden on craigslists. So can so one tell me why i keep getting flaged and removed? And how to fix it so i won't be? ThanksThanks a lot i will try that and see if it
helps
moreResolved Question: i am tired of begging for a horse.?
Ok, this may be a frequently asked question, but i dont care anymore. i am tired of begging my parents for a horse, i am tired of being the stupid little kid everyone thinks i am. i am 14 years old , i have been riding all my life as my mother has had horses in the past. They just dont listen. I can not bare asking them anymore because every time they say no, it just makes me even more upset. i am very aware of the cost of a horse, as i have volunteered at many horse stables and retirement stables, and i have worked at my local stables for 5 years + . Half the time they realy get my hopes up by saying stuff like oh , im working on a house that has a stud farm on it, they have loades of horses for sale aswell, and then mentioning nothing else. its realy getting to me now. i realy need some help. has anybody got and strategies or ideas i could say to them ? PLEASE ?!?!
moreVoting Question: Legal advice on business dealing?
A few months ago I posted asking a question about dealing with a business. I am now having another problem with the same business.
For background, this horse breeding farm was running a sale and offering 2 breedings for $750 when the regular price for one was $650. I bought the 2 and paid $375 as a booking fee. There were issues that came up later on for me and I was going to sell the breedings. I found out that they don't allow that so I kept them and was working on coming up with the other 1/2 of the money for the breedings so I could bring my mare (other breeding to be used next spring). I said I thought I could do June. That didn't happen since we had more financial troubles that month. So today I get an email from the business owner saying this:
We are going to assume this is null and void. We have not heard from you nor did you contact us about bringing your mare last month as promised.
So I emailed back saying that I was still planning on bringing my mare but had had more money issues and was still working on getting the stud fee together. He had told me before that they breed until September first so I was planning on bringing her next month. I told him this. I haven't heard back but I am wondering if he can just cancel this and not refund my money? I am really worried because we really can't afford to be out this money and my husband is already beyond furious at me for this whole mess. So can he just decide not to breed my mares and then keep my money? There was never a contract signed on this. If he decides to try, do I have any recourse in court? Thanks!
moreResolved Question: Advice? Which horse would you buy?
The pally QH I've been leasing for the past two years isn't for sale, so I've been looking around for horses all over the Internet. I've looked at five total, and have narrowed it down to two. The first is a gorgeous bay QH mare by Julies Impression, out of Play It Teddy. The owner said that she was at the breeding farm in April and May, but didn't settle, so the stud's owners gave her kind of an IOU for breeding. (I'm sure there's a term for that that I don't know.) She's 15.3hh (a good size for me - 5'7") and 6 years old. She's very friendly, but a little pushy. She's beautiful, calm, surefooted, and is good around kids. Her owner has had her for a long time, but has never cantered her, so she was kind of out of shape. (Her owner didn't really take charge of her. She said that she rode her before we arrived and couldn't get her to trot. I noticed that when she rode her before I got on, she just kind of poked her with her spurs.) When I asked her to canter, she bucked a little, but it was a playful refusal, not like she was trying to throw me. I sat it without a problem. I'm looking for a horse that will be somewhat of a project, so that's okay by me. I did get a few steps of a canter, and it was really smooth. She uses a twisted snaffle. She likes to stop unexpectedly. (I don't blame her with this crazy heat and her being so out of shape.) What I'm worried about with her is that she has only been around minis for a while, not actual horses, and she might not have the get-up-and-go that I'm looking for. She costs $1,500, but I believe that the price is negotiable.
The second guy's owner wanted $1,800, but she said that she knows the "horse market is down" and would probably take less. He's a brown and white pinto Tennessee Walker. He's the boss of the herd and is buddy sour. He allegedly neck reins, but I plow reined him because I had somewhat of a problem keeping him away from the gate/tie when I was riding him. He didn't want to pick up his feet for picking out. He was a little heavy on the (mild curb) bit. Those were all the bad things about him, though, (besides the fact that he's a little chubby, but I prefer that to overly skinny) and I am confident that it would only be a matter of time before we had these things sorted out and established that I Am The Boss. I didn't canter him because the horse I looked at earlier in the day (not the bay mare) bucked me off when I asked her to canter and frankly I was freaked out because he hadn't been ridden in a while. He's 15.2ish, maybe a little bigger, and 6 years old. He has one blue eye with a little blue in his brown eye and a caramel stripe in his white mane. His tail is long and gorgeous. He's a sweetheart, and there's just something about him that I like more than the bay mare. What I'm worried about is the gait. I have literally no experiene with gaited horses. Apparently they're not supposed to trot or pace. He paced quite a bit when I was trying him, and he trots occasionally but not often by any means. I don't think he trotted at all under saddle. I don't know if my instructor (who the owners distantly know, actually - small world) has any experience with gaited horses, but he's been around horses for all of his life and knows a LOT, so he probably knows more about gaited horses than I think he does. The Walker seems to have the spirit that I'm looking for without being over-the-top spooky. He can really get moving, and his owner said that he has cutting horse potential. She chased him around the pasture for a while after I got off so I could see him move (she couldn't ride him for me because she is recovering from pelvic fractures), and he did do an impressive rollback.
Both are registered with their proper organizations. The Walker's papers are still in the name of the person that owned him before the woman who's currently selling him because she never bothered to get it transferred - apparently it cost like $125.http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=86570&id=799454062&l=081ee986c5
The horses that I'm talking about here are at the end, after the white/brown Appaloosa. The first bay in the album is a gelding and is /not/ the one I'm talking about above, so don't get confused. (:Oh, sorry, I remembered the order incorrectly. The bay mare comes right after the little black mare and right before the Appy.
moreResolved Question: If you want something a lot would it happen?
My teacher told us if you desire something and you work really hard for it, it might happen.
Example: If you really want to own a farm and you make a book or project for your "dream" farm you look for horses for sale and farms for sale all the time.
Do you think that if you ran for the lottery you might win?
moreResolved Question: Buckskin Horse for sale?
I love buckskins!!! i live on a farm and we have two horses.. i have always wanted one! does anyone know were any are for sale around or in the state of virginia?
moreResolved Question: Therapeutic Barn Shipping Horses To Auction?
What would you do if a local (certified) therapeutic riding center was discovered to have shipped more than one farm owned horse to low end auction houses (where kill buyers frequent) when they were just 'not working out'.
One of the horses had worked for them for 8 years. The other, 6 months. Both are broke to ride with show experience and under 15 with minor health issues. One was more loving than any other horse I have ever met. She honestly liked coming out to greet kids every day. She had developed riding issues from know-nothing volunteers jumping on and running her into the ground (why they were dumping her). The other was not a good match for the program but was never offered up for sale at any time AND the original owner had the right to a first refusal.
Volunteers, workers and donation givers were told that both horses were retired to their sister farm an hour up the road to live on the 30 acres there.
How would you feel? What would you do?
p.s. neither horse sold but I've heard the owners of the therapeutic place are frequent around the auction house so no doubt the horses will be back for another run through
moreResolved Question: My poor mare! What do i do about her!??!?!?
I love this horse- my first horse and all that stuff.. first horse i jumped on, did barrels on, and cantered bareback on, ect...
Well she was perfectly healthy when we bought her 4 years ago (16 when we bought her, sweet little starter horse)
Okay anyway, do the math, she's 20 now.
She foundered shortly after we bought her (i dunno, under a year later.)
Okay then she started gaining huge amounts of weight, couldn't shed out her fur, ect... got abscesses... she's insulin resistant, but she doesn't have cushings. we thought she did because of the not shedding thing.
The founder kept going on, then it suddenly stopped for about 6 months. best she had been in a long time. still overweight, but she wasnt foundering so woo-hoo!
Alright. well now, she is still not foundering! She just got over an abscess... and she's losing weight. but not being excersized...
So, now, she moves with hesitance in her left hind leg.. and when she got her feet done, she was so stiff in that leg she could hardly move it onto the stand!
Then, when she was being walked back to her stall....
Her hind end was wobbling...
(the owner of the farm she's at told me this, i wasn't there i cant tell you the severity of it)
I am now starting to think its her time to go. she's losing weight even though she's not even doing anything but standing in a stall/paddock. and she's doing badly, she's depressed, her eyes aren't full of the spunk they used to...
The vet doesnt know what to say. she looks at her and just says "you can give her more time, she has a large chance of getting better, but she's in some pain right now"
So.
Its mostly my call... I feel like it'd be cruel to leave her hanging by a thread..
If I put her down, should i spoil her for her last few days? (clip her, bathe her, ect... make her beautiful... get some final moments in with her..)
Stress... one sick/lame horse, pregnant one, one for sale(first one i showed with..) one new horse needing training... blah blah blah.... ='[
So... advice, thanks.Oh right bute...
Well... she was already really loaded on that stuff when she was foundering.. she was close to getting ulcers, we had to take her off of it.Turn out isnt an option. =[ she has a tendancy to get anything on her head caught on trees and such. she cant have grass =[ i would love to turn her out but i cant
moreResolved Question: i had a dream about a horse i fell in love with recently what do you think it means?
so i rode this horse last saturday, and i really loved him (but he's very hard to ride) and my riding instructor said he must really love me because she's never seen him do so well with anybody else on him. but his owner is trying to sell him because she's moving to FL. (she drives a bright yellow little car) but i had this dream the other night that this horse was at my house (he is currently at my farm, but i do bored my own horses at my house in my barn) and 2 men (i think men) came to my house in the horses owners car with a trailer hitched onto it(which would be impossible) but the last thing i remember was them driving off and i was crying my eyes out and then my dad came outside to see what had happened. and then i woke up i reckon i would have jumped on my horse and gone after them but i was woken up. what does this mean? is my heart trying to tell me something about this horse? he is up for sale but he's not the best horse, he's just hard to handle, and my instructor thinks he wouldn't be a good 2ft horse......but you probablly dont care but he's drop dead gorgeous, he's black, 16.2 (not sure on the breed) has a BEAUTIFUL neck that curves up and he's amazing on the flats (walk trot canter) thnx
moreResolved Question: Fascinating dream about a horse i rode?
so i rode this horse last saturday, and i really loved him (but he's very hard to ride) and my riding instructor said he must really love me because she's never seen him do so well with anybody else on him. but his owner is trying to sell him because she's moving to FL. (she drives a bright yellow little car) but i had this dream the other night that this horse was at my house (he is currently at my farm, but i do bored my own horses at my house in my barn) and 2 men (i think men) came to my house in the horses owners car with a trailer hitched onto it(which would be impossible) but the last thing i remember was them driving off and i was crying my eyes out and then my dad came outside to see what had happened. and then i woke up i reckon i would have jumped on my horse and gone after them but i was woken up. what does this mean? is my heart trying to tell me something about this horse? he is up for sale but he's not the best horse, he's just hard to handle, and my instructor thinks he wouldn't be a good 2ft horse......but you probablly dont care but he's drop dead gorgeous, he's black, 16.2 (not sure on the breed) has a BEAUTIFUL neck that curves up and he's amazing on the flats (walk trot canter) thnx
moreResolved Question: Ocala Florida, plantation farm house right on I 75?
Every time I drive through Ocala, Florida on I 75 I always pass by this gorgeous plantation style house. It's of course the typical Ocala estate, large white brick entrance, up on a hill, large acreage, and horse farm. And I always want to know who owns this; I've recently heard that it was for sale. I just want to know the history behind this house. I have no other details about this house. Other than that its in Ocala, Florida, white brick entrance with gate, white columns, up on a hill, and that you can see it from the interstate but it is a ways off.
Thanks!
moreResolved Question: Whats the weirdest thing to happen to you while out on a ride?
Today i was out on a ride on my 6 year old skewbald cob gelding. He was being great, normally he would spook at everything but he seemed to be enjoying himself, I was too. A gypsy in a van pulled up suddenly and asked me "Hey is he for sale?" meaning my gorgeous horse. I said "no" very calmly and trotted off. Ive seen gypsy's with horses like mine and they probably were thinking "what a nice horse" and wanted him. I keep my horse on a farm thats near a gypsy camp...they must have spotted him out in the field. lol. has anything like this happened to you or anything just as wierd or you wanna tell us about?I like telling stories and finding out about people's horses and wierd experiences with them....you can probably tellAnother time i was riding on the road and a lorry came up behind us and beeped its horn...my horse tried to gallop away...he wouldnt stop or turn...he jumped over a gate into a field then bucked at the lorry went past...poor guy , he just doesnt know any better...we are in the middle of training him. Anyway he calmed down and i took him for a ride around the field....a helecopter came over head...he reared and ran again...eventually i managed to get him home...i was terrified...worst ride ive ever had on himThe gypsy's near us dont ever steal...they were just wanting to offer money for him...he is safe and the people who live on the farm can just look out the window and check on him...it shook me up though...lol it would for anyone
moreResolved Question: Anyone following the news about Ernie Paragallo (Paraneck Stables)?
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/50158/paragallo-charged-with-22-cruelty-counts
He's up for animal cruelty charges for the neglect of the horses on his farm.
This reminds me so much of what happened out at Rex Ellsworth's farm in Chino, CA more than 30 years ago. It's just mind-boggling to me that someone could let things like this happen to his horses.
I'm betting that as with Ellsworth, the reasons things went wrong are going to turn out the same: a combination of financial downturn and possibly alcohol abuse. Why people who own horses and get into this situation don't act quickly and sell enough of their horses to feed the remaining ones and care for them properly, I'll never understand.
Ellsworth ended up selling off his horses. I'm betting there's a dispersal sale in Paragallo's future too.
Sad it came to this. Comments?Vicki J, when the police and humane authorities went to Ellsworth's ranch in Chino and took his horses into custody, he made the same kind of "well I didn't do it on purpose" kind of mouth-noises.
Cases like this do not happen overnight. The financial and other problems that led to the neglect have been developing for months, I'm sure. Paragallo and Rex Ellsworth both could have made a decision to sell some of the horses and use the money from the sales to feed the rest.
I sincerely hope that if there are any others in the Thoroughbred business who are "underwater" with their horses and skimping on care, they see the example made of Paragallo and sell their horses.
moreResolved Question: New Show Horse..............?
I've been looking for a new show horse for a while and I found one that I liked.
http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/classifieds/ad374559
I want a horse that is calm, can go on the trails, does english and western, has been shown before, good size, preferably registered, and around the 4 to 12 year old category.
I'm an experianced rider and have shown before, and I could actually train my own show horse but I'll be working with young horses this year and working around the farm so I don't really have the time. Anyways I think I found my perfect match.So what do you think of him is the main questionsorry i kinda forgot to mention that.....lolI can fix the nose problem.
COLOR DOES NOT MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care what the horse's eyes look like and I don't care if you don't like paints and think bald faces are ugly.
If all you have to say is a comment on whether you like his color or not please don't answer.
I'm not trying to be rude but I don't want comments on whether or not you think bald faces and blue eyes and paints and everything are ugly
Thank You
moreResolved Question: Life versus Death with Horses?
Ok I will start from the beginning. My husband and I (about 3 months ago) moved in with some friends of ours and in return for living with them we have to help out on the 40 acre farm. Well between her and her daughter, they have 6 horses. Her daughter has 4 geldings and this lady (I'll call her Gail) has a pregnant paint mare and a homozygous Paint Stallion.
We had always been told that Tonto (the stud) is a handful, but at one time he was ridden. They haven't been able to ride him for the past 3 years because he's so uncontrollable and so full of testosterone that no one can handle him. Also, if you take Cricket (the mare) away from him he's goes crazy. We have him up for sale right now and he's worth a lot of money. About $25,000. He's a homozygous Bullseye Bay Tobiano Stallion. All of his foals will be the Tobiano Bullseye color. Well I am the only one (besides my husband and Gail's son-in-law) who's healthy enough to be out working with the horses in any condition. Well I bring the mare into her stall to feed her once a day and Tonto does just fine. Then I'll let her out and he starts getting his stallion voices going and trys to mount her. Right now she's anywhere from 1 day to 2 weeks away from foaling.
Well today Gail and her husband (Bob I'll call him) went out of town for a week. And that leaves me to take care of the horses with my husband along with the rest of the farm. So I decided to go and feed Cricket her normal amount of grain, and I usually stand in her stall with her b/c the horses have full access to the 9 stall barn. Well Tonto came in while I was in her stall brushing and talking to her and tried climbing over the stall (about 6 feet) to attack me and Cricket. Tonto has been known to turn on a dime like this. For example, 5 minutes before I went back in Cricket's stall Tonto was loving on me and I was brushing him. Well after I let Cricket out (There's Titan (Egyptian Arab), JJ (Appy), Pheonix (American Arab), and Beamer (Use to be Wild Mustang).) Well Tonto decided to attack Beamer. Beamer is already a horse that takes a long time to gain his trust (it has been taking me 3 months and he's still not quite sure). Now Tonto attacking Beamer was pinning him to the ground, biting the crap out of him and kicking the shit out of him. Once Beamer got back up, I was trying to get Tonto off of him with a whip, and he had ahold of Beamer by the shoulder (Left) and biting down as hard as he could at a full gallop. Beamer made noises that I've never heard a horse make, they were so ungodly awful. I thought Beamer was going to be killed by Tonto, that's what it sounded like.
Well I ran to Gail's daughter's house and started balling telling her what had just happened. We both went back across to the barn and on the way there Tonto had Beamer pinned in the barn doing it again. (Normally Tonto and Beamer are Cricket's protectors.) Well we got on the phone with Gail and Bob and told them Tonto was either going to be leaving or we'd have to put him down. This isn't the first time this has happened to one of the horses. He's attacked all of them (including Cricket) at one point or another.
Well Gail and Bob said they'd have to call us back and talk about what to do. When they called us back they said either someone could come up with the money to geld him and be reimbursed later or put him down. Now what I need help with is what should I do?????????????????
To me, this horse is beyond the point of no return. I love horses with all my life, my profession is actually going into a breeding barn and training. I can't even work with Tonto. He won't let anyone put a halter on him or anything. And I know that it'd hurt me tremundously to put a horse down for no reason, but I think this is it with him. I believe that if someone could come up with the money to geld him (we are all pretty strapped for cash) that it'd just be a waste. Tonto's 9 now and he's got it in his head that he's a stallion and always will be. I don't think there's any point in spending the money to geld him. Granted he's worth a lot of money and all, but I'm afraid to go back in that barn.
No body is allowed to go back into the barn or pasture now until he's taken care of. He's so out of control, it's crazy. Please help!!! I cannot jeopardize my mare and foal for this crazy stallion.
On top of all this, the mare last year didn't make any milk so the foal ended up dying b/c it didn't get the colostrum needed. I need to be in the barn with Cricket as soon as she foals incase she doesn't want anything to do with the foal again. And Tonto, I'm afraid, might kill me if I try to come near Cricket or the foal now. I just need ideas!! Please!!!!My only concern right now is that we don't have the money to geld him. Our farm is mostly self sufficient, but we also said we shouldn't be putting our other horses and ourselves at risk. But I dunno if he'd be the same if he was gelded. He so out of control right now. What should we do if we can't find a vet that would bill us for gelding him. The actual owners are out of town and my husband and I don't have any money to geld a horse in general. I'm so worried that even after he's gelded he'll hurt the foal. I'm flustered and so worked up over this. I don't think I could ever trust him again.Tonto is almost 9. I came onto this farm 3 months ago with Tonto like this. I have been telling them that he cannot be left in the pasture like this. We have not started a breeding program, they have been wanting to. I am going to school to start it all up, but with the mare, I'm the only one out there working with the horses. Where we live, you can't find trainers, they are few and far between. The owners went out of town for a week for their great grand daughters 1st birthday. And all of the food is paid up for over a year. They buy in bulk. But if we were to euthanize Tonto, it wouldn't cost us anything, it'd cost us more to put up a seperate stall and another pasture or build a roundpen type thing for him. Plus gelding him. I am not the owner, I am the one who takes care of them. We are considering just gelding him (not just for riding but b/c he use to be a barrel racer), but we are considering it. And we'd be keeping him away from the other horses always. I'm just nervous.
moreResolved Question: Would like a horse for show jumping but dont know alot :S?
ive always wanted to do show jumping but my mum never really knew and said they cost to much when i asked if i could get a horse. But anyway what id like to know is how big a paddock has to be for the one horse, How much it costs to look after a horse and how much for the actual horse (kinda estimate) and how big a horse i need cuz im 5 ft 8/9 and im 15 (soon 16 woo lol). Where would i go in England to buy a horse?? Do you go to those auctiony thingys or something? or can you go to a farm and buy one for sale? ummm what else....umm...well any tips i spose really :)..And tips for looking after a horse if you know any
cheers :D xNo but i live in England dumbass lol.I mean look at my avatar it has a Union flag in it. I only said where i could find one in England because i live here and i didnt want people saying where i could buy them in the US because thats no good to me lol.Also what breed is good for jumping and just any other things i need to know about picking out a horse :)and how old should a horse i buy be?
moreResolved Question: I want to buy a horse!?
I wanna buy a horse. I live on the country on a farm..so I dont need some highclass breed like a thoroughbred. I'll just be riding it around my farm. Do you know who i should ask to see of they know anyone who has a horse for sale? And what are the pricings on horses these days? Please help!
moreResolved Question: I was volunteering at a horse farm today, and i need some help!?
I was volunteering, cleaning up the barn, ect, ect. This beautiful filly had crooked legs (beautiful other than that) and everyone there hates her.
I asked why, and they said "she was an accident. The stallion escaped and bred her" I said (in a non-nagging voice) "I don't see how this is her fault."
they simply shrugged, said "she's the foal, and she is horrible."
I later on saw her being led around, lunged, ect.
Her (right hind) crooked leg was bothering her. She limped at the trot. If she didn't step as well as she usually did (which wasn't great) then they would either yell, or snap a whip at her. Is this cruel?
Also, she is for sale.
I have fallen in love with her (she's sweet. she's so gentle, great personality) and I know I wouldn't be able to ride her.
She's young, is it possible that she might grow out of this, or is it permanent (i know, hard for you to tell without a video, but have you experienced this and if so, what was the outcome of it?)
so, my main question. Is this (if i bought her) rewarding them for their non-existant heart? is it worth buying her? She's an arab, if that helps any.
feel free to ask for any more informatioin, I'd give it to you.
I cannot provide pictures, this farm is 45 minutes away.
=]
NO rude comments, yes I am experienced, have the ability to care for her, know where to keep her, ect.
Thanks in advance.she's fed plain hay. dusty hay.
That could contribute,
she's a yearling. I just met her today, I could be wrong.I'm pretty sure it was the flaw.
I was there with a 4-H group. I was only allowed to go see the horses (i spent most of the time staring at her through her stall door) and not allowed to go in with them, the horses had to be removed from the stalls, then we cleaned them, unfortunately.
she isn't ever turned out, maybe a lack of exersize is another problem?
moreResolved Question: Why is it on TV you see rolling acres, but in real life there doesn't seem to be any?
Watching TV you see these horse farms that are beautiful, like there's a show on Animal Planet featuring this retirement horse farm and it was 200+ acres of trees, lush grass, and 99 horses. I mean, it was amazing. But then in real life, you look for places like these (real life meaning horse properties up for sale) and there's none!
I'm feeling frustrated since I'm looking for a great equine horse property that's just stunning. Not 200 acres, but like about 20 or so. I mean, I want it to be lush grass, a good barn, a house-on site kind of thing. But my search is fruitless.
Why is this?I'm not inserting a price range nor a specific area. I got frustrated so opened it up to all possibilites and hardly anything!
moreResolved Question: Is anyone looking for horse services (boarding, training, ect.) around Grand Rapids MI?
I know of a farm that offers boarding, sales, training, clinics, lessons. please email goldiboxxgrrl@aim.com for more info. SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY!
moreResolved Question: I have two 2 1/2 acre approved lots for sale in Port Jervis, NY. Can I place them as for sale by owner ?
They are in the Minnisink Valley School System and on a dead end road with a horse farm at the end. Very quiet Lane. Asking under $100K for each parcel. Need to sell to keep my home. Widowed and retired.
moreResolved Question: Questions about Horses make good money?
Hi, I was wondering about salaries and stuff with horses. I want to go to college for equine managament or business. I want to train, show, and sell warmbloods. I have a passion for horses and already know so much about them and how to train them. I am learning dressage, cross-country, more with hunter/jumper/eq, ect. All the english sports. I was wondering if anyone thinks it makes good money? And if its going to make good profit so I can have a decent house to live in and nice property for the horses. I was thinking that mabey if I do boarding on the side that I would make some good money to pay for my show fees and stuff for my sale horses. But, my dad was telling me that there is no money in it and eventually people stop boarding. He has friends who had big boarding facilities and had good people but eventually got out of the business because of the people not paying board and all that mess. My parents did boarding before and people wouldn't pay. We had them sign contracts but then they would want to take us to court. Does anyone know if boarding is more of a waste of time and money or if it does you some good? I could also train other people's horses on the side of training my warmbloods. I was thinking about breeding horses buut I don't know about the money in that. Also, is there any other things I can do to make mony on the side, with other farm animals like goats and all them. I don't want to do anything with killing animals. I also don't want to be a vet. I really need someone to give me good info if possible because I want to have a good career with horses, not living in some beat up trailer falling apart and me in debt. ThanksOkay, I want to make money with horses because I want to have decent money to take care of myself and I want to work with them because I love them. Not just for money!
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